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Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:21:00 -
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HiddenPorpoise wrote:Drake Doe wrote:oh that is such an adorable armor tank, so cute! If you keep eating your vegetables, one day you'll grow big and strong like us. The incursus can perma tank 150dps so I don't know what you're on about. Rifter isn't a bad ship it just is predictable so people don't feel fancy fitting it.
The Rifter isn't predictable, but perhaps a lot of people who fly it are. 
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Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:19:00 -
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Urkhan Law wrote:Do not remove the tracking. If the ideia is to boost dps just switch damage with rof.
The thing I would like the most was a speed boost, but a combat frig should not touch the speed of an attack frig, so the speed boost would have to be a very small one (5-15m/sec).
I agree with this. At this point in time you can still achieve a lot by using the speed advantage + the good tracking that a Rifter can offer in comparison to other frigs, but a speed buff wouldn't hurt. |
Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:45:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote: Making it a bit faster might help, but wouldn't go very far to answer the question of why you should fly a rifter instead of a slasher.
If this meant that you could beat less ships in a Rifter than in a Slasher, I would agree that the Rifter would be in need of a more extreme change. It might be harder and take more time to learn how to, but I don't see that as anything negative. People pick the ship they want to fly based on all kinds of reasons: what race they have spent most time training in, what ship they consider to be the best according to the current meta, the look of the ship et cetera.
I don't think the Rifter needs to have it's own niche in terms of being better at a certain thing in comparison to other frigates. It's niche right now seems to be a frig that most pilots will engage no matter what frig they're in themselves because they believe the Rifter is worse off than, in my highly noobish opinion, it actually is.
Yes, it might be in need of a small buff. But when you can still beat good and experienced pilots in other hulls with it, I don't see a reason for any drastic changes. |
Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:46:00 -
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Concidering where the Rifter is today, I would say it's possible to beat pretty much any other T1 frig using 3 different fits. Some frigs, like the Tristan, has in my limited experience proved to be very difficult but I still think you got a fighting chance. Would this be concidered a very narrow engagement envelope? It's a sincere queston, since I have so little experience in flying other ships it's difficult to know. |
Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:16:00 -
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Zappity wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20378537[quote=Urkhan Law] I'm curious about this. I really like the Rifter and cut my teeth on it (another character). What should this guy have done differently with fitting? Nano shield Rifter vs rails Incursus: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20378537
Without him having a web I'm guessing it was very easy for you to keep him at range. Against rails he would have wanted to get in to a close orbit to avoid as much of the damage as possible and make use of his better tracking. Without a web he can't do that. |
Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:30:00 -
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I think I see your point Urkhan. What I'm wondering is if the Rifter's narrow engagement window (if that's what it really is) is something that is just a problem with the Rifter, or only becomes one when you compare it to a few ships like the Breacher that has a very wide engagement envelope?
The option of being able to bravely run away if you run in to something nasty, is something I fully support. 
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Crake Gaterau
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:03:00 -
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I've had some luck with a brawler fit, an artillery fit and a variation of the cookie that adds a bit more range. I'm sure someone with better fitting skillz and piloting could do better. |
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